Comments on: SOAP duds! https://tariquesani.net/blog/2002/04/15/soap-duds/ Pediatrician and a Forensic Expert. A passionate PHP geek. Currently CTO, SANIsoft. Also a photographer, bird watcher, nature lover and a FOSS enthusiast. Mon, 19 Sep 2016 13:33:04 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.5.3 By: tariquesani https://tariquesani.net/blog/2002/04/15/soap-duds/#comment-45 Wed, 01 May 2002 21:05:45 +0000 https://tarique.sanisoft.com/lj/?p=41#comment-45 Re: Bandwidth is cheap? 🙂

Nope! I am not refering to India.

]]> By: vaibhav https://tariquesani.net/blog/2002/04/15/soap-duds/#comment-44 Tue, 30 Apr 2002 21:51:35 +0000 https://tarique.sanisoft.com/lj/?p=41#comment-44 Bandwidth is cheap? 🙂

Hi tarique,
I read something about bandwidth being cheap. You referring to bandwidth in India? Any pointers? 🙂

]]> By: kvk https://tariquesani.net/blog/2002/04/15/soap-duds/#comment-40 Tue, 16 Apr 2002 18:32:57 +0000 https://tarique.sanisoft.com/lj/?p=41#comment-40 I don’t see any FUD at all. So maybe, I’m pretty dumb 😉

]]> By: tariquesani https://tariquesani.net/blog/2002/04/15/soap-duds/#comment-38 Tue, 16 Apr 2002 18:10:10 +0000 https://tarique.sanisoft.com/lj/?p=41#comment-38 Well atleast for me your post answers all your questions as well

And then there are enough articles to prove the point as well

Ignoring the law of transitivity let me put it this way
.NET == Web Services == SOAP was the picture that M$ has always sought to give, the truth notwithstanding.

OTOH – you must be pretty smart to read through all the FUD and still get a clear picture.

]]> By: kvk https://tariquesani.net/blog/2002/04/15/soap-duds/#comment-36 Tue, 16 Apr 2002 16:48:45 +0000 https://tarique.sanisoft.com/lj/?p=41#comment-36 Huh? Those articles are 2 years old, for chrissake. .NET has come a long way since then. If you’d look at the W3 SOAP site, you’d get this link – https://www.w3.org/Submission/2000/05/. See under the heading “Declaration of Microsoft Corporation:”. Then try to think what they could possibly gain by making SOAP an _open standard_.

Again my question stands, where do you see that “SOAP == .NET”?

My understanding is that .NET is much more than SOAP. But then again, I don’t profess any knowledge about web services other than plain-speak articles about the same (f.e. CNET). All I know is that there is lot of new technology involved with it. Especially C#, CLR related. That’s all I’m interested in. Probably, Joel’s last week’s column would explain things to you in a better manner.

I definitely agree that MS is not naive. But they do have good business acumen, as history has shown us.

Finally, I am neither a MS bigot nor a Linux/Free software/Opensource/*BSD bigot. I just happen to like good technology 🙂

]]> By: tariquesani https://tariquesani.net/blog/2002/04/15/soap-duds/#comment-35 Tue, 16 Apr 2002 15:15:17 +0000 https://tarique.sanisoft.com/lj/?p=41#comment-35 Do you think that the suits at M$ are so naive and juvenile – dig a bit deeper.

https://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2000/May00/SoapW3CPR.asp

Read the subtle messages in the small press release above and here

https://news.com.com/2100-1001-231478.html?legacy=cnet

To quote – “Microsoft has developed a new technology for exchanging information over the Web that could give the software giant an advantage over Sun Microsystems, IBM, and other competitors if adopted by a standards body.” – LOL

finally STFW for SOAP + Microsoft + News

]]> By: kvk https://tariquesani.net/blog/2002/04/15/soap-duds/#comment-34 Tue, 16 Apr 2002 14:14:26 +0000 https://tarique.sanisoft.com/lj/?p=41#comment-34 Hmm, the original postings never mentioned .NET, but only SOAP and XML-RPC — thus my comment 😉

Where exactly is the hype that “SOAP == .NET”? If I go to the MS .NET site, I can’t even see SOAP being mentioned anywhere on the index page.

]]> By: tariquesani https://tariquesani.net/blog/2002/04/15/soap-duds/#comment-33 Tue, 16 Apr 2002 13:42:08 +0000 https://tarique.sanisoft.com/lj/?p=41#comment-33 Exactly – the hype is that SOAP == M$ .NET == Web Services

]]> By: kvk https://tariquesani.net/blog/2002/04/15/soap-duds/#comment-32 Tue, 16 Apr 2002 13:13:36 +0000 https://tarique.sanisoft.com/lj/?p=41#comment-32 What “evil hype from M$”? AFAIK, SOAP specification is under the control of the W3 working group comprising of IBM, HP, Ariba, SAP and many others — not just Microsoft.

]]> By: tariquesani https://tariquesani.net/blog/2002/04/15/soap-duds/#comment-31 Mon, 15 Apr 2002 14:37:38 +0000 https://tarique.sanisoft.com/lj/?p=41#comment-31 For the test run I created the server using the SOAP class by Manuel (phpclasses.org) Lemos, the client is the SOAP client found in PEAR but I will probably write my own client class which does not rely on PEAR

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